--- In Bird-Click@yahoogroups.com,
I looked at the links you provided Shanlung, but I
only find a
reference to uncooked beans and sprouts, what about
lot of foods are toxic when raw... What about cooked
etc? I'm sure I have seen them in bird recipes...?
are creatures of our own prejudices.
am not an expert on nutrition be it of fids or
I rely on what I get from the web or from
people who established themselves in that field
knowledge. Unless what they say run contrary to
I do know.
have been schools of thoughts that maintained
products are unhealthy and should not be feed to
pets or even to humans as it adversely affect
and other problems. But with the thousands
years of soy beans and products in Asian/Chinese
I do disagree. Looking at the number of
and East Asians there are in this world and
heavy consumption of soya products, fertility
health do not seem to be a problem unlike what
school of thoughts have said.
beans are poisonous UNLESS properly prepared by
soaking and washing prior to cooking. Even a
chinese (but I love good food even if I
cook) like me knows that. It must be
cooked as well. Tink and so many other
are healthy as well on MMM which advocate soy
areas I know less about or of food that I do not
much about, I rather not take risks. Some people
avocado flesh can be feed to fid PROVIDED the
adjacent to the seed or skin are not used. As I
not care for avocados myself, I prefer to accept
and not use avocado at all for Tinkerbell.
diet for fid include papayas. I hate papayas and
that reason, Tinkerbell never got any papayas.
am ambivalent to broadbeans although I must confess
recent conversion to the delights of lima beans. In
case, I defer to conventional lore and accept
those may not be suitable for Tinkerbell.
all, I have already 9 different types of beans
pinto, kidney, soy, blackeye, black, red,
white) 5 different cereals(rices, oats, wheat,
and different veges and fruits in my mash for
She gets choice bites from my sashimi and
food as and when we have dinner. She gets to
an oil palm date from time to time. Yup, Tink
get her pellets and Nutriberries regularly and HT
Zorro's fur now and then.
absence of broad beans or lima beans from her diet
not be significant. I am not that brave at
point to prove the pundits right or wrong on fava
lima beans or to wonder if they refer only to the
beans or not. I am a coward at such things.
maintain my own peace of mind by not having that at
in her current diet.
- wife, Tinkerbell - CAG & surrogate daughter
Date: Fri Apr 9, 2004 3:12 pm
Subject: OT - Lima beans - summing up
am so glad for all your input even if I do not reply
each and everyone.
think not only I am guilty of being bounded by my
prejudices. It seems from the conflicting
the Internet sites provided that those
posters are also bounded by their own
Some foodstuff that are praised in one
be condemned by another. Agnieszka took glee in
out that some of the beans I am using are
as poisonous in a couple of URLs she kindly
response came in to convince me that lima beans
be fed to Tinkerbell. Please sit firmly and try
to drop from your chair.
even added that her fids love raw lima beans.
I think I will cook my lima beans well before
it to Tinkerbell.
flurry of letters from me is only the tip of the
for fid culinary delights the last few days.
recalled how I reported that I managed to locate
long missing gnw beans. As my batch of mash was
out, I prepared a new batch of mash with that
bought gnw beans last week and wrote to you
in that email "In praise of procrastination". I
wrote in capital letters "WHATEVER YOU THINK,
MAKE POSITIVE IDENTIFICATION OF ALL FOODSTUFF
GIVING TO YOUR FID."
my letter again and again, those words came to
me more and more. That shop owner gave a
look at the sample and should I trust that
if I got the gnw beans. I checked the beans
against what Yvonne snailmailed to me and I
myself that subtle differences existed.
checks made me believe I got haricot beans
known as navy beans (see? even in one language
can be such a confusion of names) instead of the
became paranoid once more. I checked the Net to find
URLs listing navy beans as poisonous to fids.
it took me 3 days to prepare the mash
my system of soaking and washing the beans, I
not to take chances and to prepare a fresh
of mash without those suspect navy beans and to
rid of that old batch.
take a lot less care over my own food. As long as
mold on my leftover food do not glow and not turn
enough to walk out of the fridge, I heat them
to eat them. All dishes used for Tink are washed
clean and any hint of discoloration on her
earn them a place in the trashcan immediately.
on tuesday, I started preparations for new mash
and washing beans. Wednesday saw even more
soaking and washing in their own pots , pans and
in preparation for mash cooking on Thursday.
my wife started to notice URLs that listed navy
as ok for fids as well. I will list just two
haricot beans are suggested
URL Kaytee's "Kitchen Creations Pasta Bean" list
ingredient even included navy beans as well.
wished I seen that on Monday before I started
and invested so much time and effort for
night, I had to decide to cook or not to cook.
folks know it is not a matter of putting all the
and cereals in the pot and boiling it. You got
stand over a HUGE pot and stir and stir to prevent
mix from charring at the bottom. And to mix in
more stuff. Plus I got a big batch in the
with all those efforts invested in it already
a couple days earlier.
finally decided if Kaytee got navy beans in their
Tinkerbell should not keel over and die from the
beans I included in the last batch. Besideds,
love that last batch. I decided to keep that last
gritted my dentures and crowns (aint got genuine
left to grit) and junked the batch I was
Cockroaches and rats in the sewer will be
what and why all those manna reaching them
from. You folks know.
the end of the story folks. Joy dug deeper and
this 1984 article on the first breeding of
Macaws in England.
what they feed those wonderful macaws to the
that they breed?
beans! Dont ask me more. You figure out
just want to wear blinkers or even stick my head in
bag and not bewilder my neurons anymore.
- wife, Tinkerbell - CAG & surrogate daughter