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From: shan lung <shanlung9@y

From:  shan lung <shanlung9@y...>
Date:  Thu Feb 5, 2004  12:04 pm
Subject:  Re: Mike's Manna and how the heck do you make so MUCH?


--- "Kendall, Roberta" <roberta.kendall@m...>
> Hi Shanlung, I hope you are well. : )
> I wanted to ask you how much of the Mike's Manna
> mash you make up at one time. I am picturing myself
> up to my eyeballs in mash and no place to put it (as
> I have just a standard refrigerator and freezer),
> and thinking, "Hmm, I should tell Shanlung what my
> kitchen looks like covered in Mike's Manna Mash."
> Do you buy the kit from him, or do you make it
> completely yourself?
> Your comments would be most appreciated. I also
> posted an email like this to the Grey site and asked
> for your feedback. I may just take my life into my
> hands and make up a batch this weekend. ; )
> My best regards,
> Roberta in CA

Hi folks,

It is great to be back here again having returned to
Taiwan and reaching home at 1am on 3 Feb. It was a
wonderful time in New Zealand where we got to meet 3
families of parrot lovers in among our travelling in
their beautiful country. More will be said of that
later in another email.

Halftail and Zorro were retrieved in the morning from
their stay with the vet where they were spoilt and

I then had to rush off to the office to meet a
dateline for a report.

In the evening, we made our way to Yu family to get
Tinkerbell. I called out from outside and was a bit
disappointed not to hear her screaming to me like the
last time when I came back from a long break in
Austalia. I went up the steps to see her bobbing
herself up and down from the top of the cupboard. I
was so pleased to see her again and I just looked at
her with what must be the silliest grin on my face.
She then flew to my shoulder and pressed her head just
below my ear and remained that way for a while. She
got the gentlest headrubs from me and after a while,
she flew to Joy, rested on her shoulder quietly.

We were wary enough to check our backs to see if she
pooped on us. She had shown her anoyance at us that
way after we left her a couple of days to travel
about. That was the time before we included her on
all our trips in Taiwan.

I felt heartfelt guilt to find our backs was actually
clean and her flights to our shoulders was her warm
welcome and not a precursor to punishing us for long

Mr Yu then told us that Tink was very excited that
whole day as if she knew we were coming to get her.
Tink flew to the top of the cupboard and bobbing
herself and knocking on the top the moment my voice
was heard even if she did not call back to me.

That Tink settled well at his house and was actually
talking to them all from the 2nd day. Tink has only
spoken out at home and recently, to us during our
travels but only if we are alone. Yu has been taking
Tink out on harness elsewhere. She had full run of
the house and she would fly to where the family
gathered and got on very well with their 3 kids.

Then for the last two nights, you all do understand
that I cannot get back into the net as Tink refused to
leave my side the moment I get back home.

But back to the Mike's Manna Mash. For one who never
made it before, you have a good idea as to what you
are getting into when you guessed you may be up to
your eyeballs.

I used Mike's formula as the basis as I could not get
all the ingredients in Taiwan and he did not offer his
kit of the dry stuff at that time I started on it more
than a year ago. Below is the URL to Mike's Manna

I modified the preparation slightly especially in the
process to leach out the proteolytic enzyme inhibitors
using techniques from soybean milk preparation. I also
want the beans to swell and slightly germinate for
better nutritional value.

Assuming your cooking day is on wednesday evening.

(note:  I am a bad cook and do not know cup is a précise measure.

The cup I use was a tea cup, and is slightly less than half of

The regular measuring cup.  PLEASE REMEMBER THAT IN RECIPE BELOW)

Morning of Monday,
1 cup of soybeans
1 cup of kidney beans
1 cup of garbonzo beans
1 cup of pinto beans
1 cup of blackeye beans
1 cup of dry corn
2 cup of Great Northern white beans

Those are soaked in their own containers and washed
and soaked repeatedly until wednesday cooking

Evening of Tuesday
1 cup of red beans
1 cup of green beans
1 cup of black beans

Again, these are soaked and washed repeatedly until
wednesday cooking

On wednesday evening, about 6 cups of sweet potatoes
are cut and sliced into small pieces.

1 cup of barley
1 cup of glutinious rice
1 cup of red rice
1 cup of brown rice
1 cup of oats
1 cup of rolled wheat berries
2 cups of millet

They are all combined with the beans in a large pot
with about 1 1/2 inch of water covering them and
boiled together with a tablespoonful of wheat germ.

Boiling is for 25 mins with constant stirring. Fire
is turned off and the mash is left to cook and cool
for an hour.

A bag of frozen mix vege of carrot, beans, corn is
then mixed in.

That will be enough for about 6-8 weeks for

That mash is then ladled into sandwich bags good for
3-4 days and stuffed into every available space in the
freezer. One bag taken out at a time to thaw in the
fridge for use and given in morning and evening. A
pot of warm water at about 40C is used to heat up the

Cherry tomatoes, mango, banana and carrots are blended
separately , frozen in little bags as per the mash and
a glop of that is used with the mash. That is further
garnished with chopped salad and alfalfa sprouts.

Tink gets also dry food, Nutri berries and an oil palm
date daily as well. Sunflower seeds are given as
treats and bribes and in random places around the
house for her to 'forage about'.

She also gets to join us in a few bites of sashimi,
and a bit of whatever we are having for dinner.

Tinks variation of Mikes Manna Mash is not as complete
as the original formula. But I do think her diet is
adequate enough for her. When I think of what I eat
and what I prepare for Tink, I feel slightly envious
of her.

Hope this can be of help to your fids

(footnotes added later by another email )


But some notes that beginners on mash making may find useful.

Try a quarter recipe first using a quarter of everything. 1 cup of
dry beans or rice can expand very drastically and many cups of beans
and rice give you many many many cups of mash. Heck! that quarter
recipe may be enough for 2 weeks or so. Stirring a small pot is also
going to be a lot easier than stirring a HUGE pot.

The gratification you get from seeing your fid in gobbling that mash
will inspire you to go on to half recipe and finally to the full

I left out the veges (other than the frozen stuff) to minimise the
volume in the freezer opting to add that in later from chopped salad
that I can vary or add new experimental stuff. Otherwise my only
fridge become a dedicated Tinkerbell fridge with no space for my
icecreams and other human goodies that must be kept in the freezer.


With warmest regards

Joy - wife, Tinkerbell - CAG & surrogate daughter

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